Comments on: Cave River Valley

By: Morris Herman

Morris Herman — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:09:03 +0000

I have started a site on facebook..Cave River Valley Park. Please come to the site and join us sharing old photos and we, as the public can be part of the decision making for it’s future. The DNR wants to close ALL these caves to people! Since 2008, nothing has been done to clean up any of the old debris….

By: TL

TL — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:01:38 +0000

We were in the vicinity Sunday 10/23/11 so we dropped by CRVSP. The place is beautiful in the fall.
We parked by the paved road and hiked down to the valley.
We didnt feel very welcome because of all the warning signs.
No progress on the park development.
The log cabin is going downhill.
The old picnic/camping area is all overgrown.
Massive erosion at the corner of the concrete bridge over Clifty Creek due to the creek drainage pipes being clogged up under the bridge.
We hiked and looked at a couple of the cave entrances, since it is now illegal to enter we didnt go any further.
I guess we were lucky to be able to hike there.
How depressing is that?

By: Debbie Green Guthrey

Debbie Green Guthrey — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 02:01:27 +0000

Hi,
Victor and Mabel Green were my grandparents (hello to Bruce Callam!!). I spent many long weekends and
summers at Cave River with my grandparents aned cousins. My wish would be to visit there again and relive some of the wonderful memories. I have been in Endless Cave back to the end of the lights that Grandpa had installed. I will check back on this website to read more. Great memories!
Thanks so much.

By: TL

TL — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:08:17 +0000

If anyone is interested here is a link to the September 2009 IKC meeting minutes. This issue contains the letter the IKC submitted to the DNR explaining why they wanted Endless Cave permanetly closed.

http://ikc.caves.org/docs/update_94.pdf

I have a very strong opinion about this action

By: TL

TL — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:45:04 +0000

If anyone is interested here is a link to the 2009 IKC meeting minutes and the letter they submitted to the DNR to install gate/close Endless Cave in CRVSP.

http://ikc.caves.org/docs/update_94.pdf

If you read through several of the articles it appears the IKC cut a deal with the DNR.
This statement is my opinion.
I have a very strong opinion about this subject.

By: TL

TL — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:10:15 +0000

If any one is interested here is a link to the group of people that installed the permanet gate at the entrance to Endless Cave at CRVSP

http://www.caves.org/grotto/emg/

http://dracolusus.com/cave/EMG%20Petroglyph%20July-December%202009%20Issue.pdf

The first link is to their web home page, the second link is to their club magazine and details the instalation of the permanet gate at the entrance or Endless Cave.

I have a opinion of their actions.

By: don pennington

don pennington — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:17:50 +0000

I first visited Cave .River as a teenager in the late 1950′s.Vic Green and his wife owned the property and sold food and snacks out of the old cabin. They made their living in the free newspaper business.You could visit any time of the year and explore the caves.Around 1950 the Charles Neuhauser family from Scottsburg managed the park for the Greens and lived in army tents from April until October.The children were from ages 14 down to six and helped run the campgrounds.Each weekday the father would put on good clothes and head out of the valley to sell Fuller Brush stuff door-to-door in the area!!The place was wild and wonderful then and we would spend 3 to 4 hours in the endless cave with just regular flashlights and no spare batteries!!! don

By: Joe Sims

Joe Sims — Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:48:38 +0000

I just came across this website. I am also from Evansville (like Tim Lambert) and have many memories of Cave Rver Valley. I was introduced to caving in 1975 at CRV (sorry, I can’t remember the names of the guys that took me along on one their trips, but I am grateful). After that I was hooked on the adventure and over the years that followed friends that I subsequently introduced to caving and I made weekend and day trips to CRV, Garrison Chapel area in Bloomington, Bedford, Paoli, Crawford County, all over. We never vanadalized a cave and never dropped so much as a scrap of trash. My wife and I camped next to the stream in CRV in 1979. My brother and I, and friends went there in college. Later, my son and I were active in Boy Scouts and Venture Scouts, and I lead at least two scout trips to CRV. We had a great time and I was pleased to introduce some young people to the adventure. I’m getting older now and it seems all I do is work, but we still have a 15 year old daughter at home. Somehow the subject came up that she and her best friend have never been to a non-commercial cave. My first thought was to take them to a nice walk-through cave, like Endless Cave at CRV. I am very disappointed and upset that DNR has closed CRV. The DNR website states that all CRV caves are indefinately closed because of White Nose Syndrome. We all know the importance of conservation and protection of species, but responsible recreation for people is also important. This is classic government overkill and bureacracy.

Private conservation groups do this also: I lead a scout trip to Buckners a number of years ago and had to jump through numerous hoops with the KARST group to get a permit. How many times have I been to Buckners – 5, 10? Am I qualified? I’ve only been to Sullivans Cave once, but not since KARST took over. Can a regular person (not a member of NSS or KARST) get a permit? I suppose that is the goal of conservationists – cave conservation by restriction of access. And, now CRV, traditionally open to the public, is closed by the DNR. Yes, the general public has been hard on some of the easy access caves (Buckners has always been an example of a trashed-out cave, but it’s still fun), and bat protection is important, but it was great fun to “just go caving”.

Just Complaining and Missing the Good Old Days,
Joe Sims

By: TL

TL — Mon, 02 May 2011 18:19:09 +0000

Bruce,
Just above the comment section there is a expandable Google map. To use it; on the upper right hand corner there are 2 buttons; click on the button that says map. On the upper left hand corner you will see a + plus or – minus, click on the – or minus, you may have to click it 3 or 4 or more times to get your bearings. I always just turn north at the flashing light, off of 60 in Campbellsburg In. and follow that road straight till it almost runs into the gate at CRVP.
Enjoy

By: Bruce Callam

Bruce Callam — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:19:25 +0000

It was really great to stumble onto this info about Cave River Valley! I went to school in Borden, IN with owner Victor Green’s grandson, Jim Green. In elementary school we had a few field trips to Cave River Valley, and after 50 years or so I still have some things pictured in my mind. I knew that it was located somewhere in our area, but I could not remember where it was located. After seeing this info, I am now going to have to find it and visit. Where can I find specific directions on how to get there?

Thanks for the memories,
Bruce Callam